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CoTT
09-05-2006, 09:51 AM
Live on Pay-Per-View (Free on Sky)
Sunday September 17
WWE RAW Unforgiven

WWE Championship
Tables, Ladders and Chairs Match
John Cena leaves RAW and joins SD! if he does not win
WWE Champion Edge w/Lita vs. John Cena
Tough one to call. The SD! stipulation would make you think Cena's going to lose but at the same time Edge's makeshift spinner belt would suggest that they couldn't bother wait the extra few weeks to design him a proper unique belt that would mean he's getting a lengthy title reign. The Meltz has reported Cena to come out on top in the feud, and in contrast, that he's going lose and go to SD! in two different reports, the second report being most recent. I'm gonna go with Cena losing although this one is very tough to call. A move to SD! makes no sense but the writers don't have a lot of sense these days.
Prediction: Edge to retain and send Cena to SD!


Hell in a Cell Match
Vince McMahon & Shane McMahon & ECW World Champion Big Show vs. Degeneration-X Triple H & Shawn Michaels
A win for McMahon's team would suggest that this feud won't end but between the long build up to the HBK/Vince match at WrestleMania and HHH's subsequent involvement in the feud, this rivalry has been going on for ages and I think it will end here. We can expect an almighty spotfest here with plenty of blading and bumps. It might be one of the better HIAC's in recent years.
Prediction: DX to win.

Intercontinental Championship (rematch)
Intercontinental Champion Johnny Nitro w/Melina vs. Jeff Hardy
Their first match sucked and I can't imagine this to be much better. I can't see them plopping the title on Jeff Hardy because that would mean that WWE would have just booked two candidates for worst IC Champion ever in back-to-back reigns.
Prediction: Nitro to retain via pinfall.

Women's Championship
Women's Champion Lita (possibly w/Edge) vs. Trish Stratus
It's in Trish's hometown and I think they'll give her a nice send-off here with a clean win. Lita is awful, even by diva standards. It would be awesome if they made the title defunct after this because it's quite pointless as it is.
Prediction: Trish Stratus to win the title and retire on top.

World Tag Team Championships
World Tag Team Champions Spirit Squad (any two out of Johnny, Mikey, Nicky, Mitch and Kenny) vs. The Highlanders Rory McAllister & Robbie McAllister
I see a title change here. It's been planned for a while now that the Spirit Squad be scrapped. This is the beginning of the end for them.
Prediction: Winners and new World Tag Team Champions The Highlanders.

Carlito vs. Randy Orton
Should be an interesting match, possibly a very good one if given enough time. Orton needs to get back to winning ways here as I sense they're planning a big push for him. Carlito will get one in time but it will burn slower.
Prediction: Orton to win via pinfall.

Kane vs. Umaga w/Armando Alejandro Estrada
Rumour has it that Kane is upset with WWE management for not taking him seriously enough and that some writers are sympathising with him backstage and may want him to win here. I think that would be a terrible waste and would undo Umaga's significant wins over Cena, HBK and HHH. Umaga's push is more important than Kane's feelings. They should see sense.
Prediction: Umaga to win via pinfall.

Dead E. Guerrero
09-05-2006, 09:57 AM
Live on Pay-Per-View (Free on Sky)
Sunday September 17
WWE RAW Unforgiven

WWE Championship
Tables, Ladders and Chairs Match
John Cena leaves RAW and joins SD! if he does not win
WWE Champion Edge w/Lita vs. John Cena

Prediction: Cena wins by pinfall. (The Marine comes out next month, they'll want the belt on him for promotional reasons, and not nly that Cena jobbed in his hometown so I miagine that Edge will return the favour.

Hell in a Cell Match
Vince McMahon & Shane McMahon & ECW World Champion Big Show vs. Degeneration-X Triple H & Shawn Michaels

Prediction:McMahons win, continuing the feud until the Survivor Series.

[B]Intercontinental Championship (rematch)

Prediction: Hardy wins via pinfall. Nitro and Melina's press conference really hurt them in managements eyes, I think.

Women's Championship
Women's Champion Lita (possibly w/Edge) vs. Trish Stratus


Prediction: Trish Stratus to win the title and retire on top. (I agree with this prediction, but I'll be shocked to actually see it happen as Trish really should job on the way out.)

World Tag Team Championships
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Prediction: Winners and new World Tag Team Champions The Highlanders.

Carlito vs. Randy Orton
Should be an interesting match, possibly a very good one if given enough time. Orton needs to get back to winning ways here as I sense they're planning a big push for him. Carlito will get one in time but it will burn slower.
Prediction: Orton to win via pinfall.

Kane vs. Umaga w/Armando Alejandro Estrada

Prediction: Umaga to win via pinfall.

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Looks like we differ only on a few things.

Legend Killer
09-05-2006, 11:45 AM
WWE Championship
Tables, Ladders and Chairs Match
John Cena leaves RAW and joins SD! if he does not win
WWE Champion Edge w/Lita vs. John Cena

Prediction: Cena wins, not only because of The Marine Movie but, because (i think) Lita wont be at Edge side because of her match.

Hell in a Cell Match
Vince McMahon & Shane McMahon & ECW World Champion Big Show vs. Degeneration-X Triple H & Shawn Michaels

Prediction: McMahons win but only because they will sent Regal and possibly Mr. Kennedy to attack the DX

[b]Intercontinental Championship (rematch)

Prediction: Hardy wins via pinfall. Melina leave Nitro and Jeff Hardy wins because he has to do a big impact to the fans see that RAW has signed a great wrestler.

Women's Championship
Women's Champion Lita (possibly w/Edge) vs. Trish Stratus


Prediction: Lita wins by pinfall, because of a spear by Edge (result of Cena's win), and because Trish will retire and she can't leave WWE as champ

World Tag Team Championships
.
Prediction: Winners and new World Tag Team Champions The Highlanders.

Carlito vs. Randy Orton

The Legend Killer must win to be back on his high level but i think he will lose

Prediction: Carlito wins via pinfall because Carlito's girlfriend (Trish Stratus) will retire so If 1 of them loses the other one must win.

Kane vs. Umaga w/Armando Alejandro Estrada

Prediction: Kane to wins via pinfall due to his rage against Umaga and he will detroy him and Armando.

-_-"
09-05-2006, 01:31 PM
Live on Pay-Per-View (Free on Sky)
Sunday September 17
WWE RAW Unforgiven

WWE Championship
Tables, Ladders and Chairs Match
John Cena leaves RAW and joins SD! if he does not win
WWE Champion Edge w/Lita vs. John Cena

Hell in a Cell Match
Vince McMahon & Shane McMahon & ECW World Champion Big Show vs. Degeneration-X Triple H & Shawn Michaels

Intercontinental Championship (rematch)

Prediction: Jeff Hardy wins.

Women's Championship
Women's Champion Lita (possibly w/Edge) vs. Trish Stratus

World Tag Team Championships
.
Prediction: The Highlanders.

Carlito vs. Randy Orton

Kane vs. Umaga w/Armando Alejandro Estrada

CoTT
09-05-2006, 02:34 PM
Prediction: Cena wins by pinfall. (The Marine comes out next month, they'll want the belt on him for promotional reasons, and not nly that Cena jobbed in his hometown so I miagine that Edge will return the favour.


TLC's aren't decided by pinfall.

Mr Eighties Wrestling
09-05-2006, 02:40 PM
WWE Championship
Tables, Ladders and Chairs Match
John Cena leaves RAW and joins SD! if he does not win
WWE Champion Edge w/Lita vs. John Cena

Hell in a Cell Match
Vince McMahon & Shane McMahon & ECW World Champion Big Show vs. Degeneration-X Triple H & Shawn Michaels

Intercontinental Championship (rematch)

Prediction: Jeff Hardy wins, probably via interference by matt

Women's Championship
Women's Champion Lita (possibly w/Edge) vs. Trish Stratus (Dont care who wins, but trish will probably, and retire the womens title)

World Tag Team Championships
.
Prediction: The Highlanders. (Probably the most obvious prediction, as the SS are going to break up soon)

Carlito vs. Randy Orton

Kane vs. Umaga w/Armando Alejandro Estrada[/QUOTE]
They seem to want to push umaga in the samoa joe character.

Legend Killer
09-05-2006, 02:50 PM
TLC's aren't decided by pinfall. yes they are, ladder matches arent decided by pinfall but TLC yes

CoTT
09-05-2006, 03:13 PM
The last TLC between Edge and Ric Flair had the title hung above the ring. As did all the tag team TLC's. Come to think of it, outside of computer games, I don't recall one WWE TLC decided by pinfall.

Liverlips McGee
09-05-2006, 04:15 PM
There's good reason for that: there hasn't been.

Edge
DX
Nitro
Lita (I think Trish will give the same type of speech as Austin did when he lost in Dallas at Survivor Series a few years back)
Highlanders
Orton by cheating, setting off a feud that will cap off at Survivor Series
Umaga

Mr Eighties Wrestling
09-05-2006, 04:16 PM
yes they are, ladder matches arent decided by pinfall but TLC yes

In SD!vsRaw games they are. Unfortunately, ill have to be the voice of reason here. TLC matches are decided by the belt retrieval, not pinfall. Actually if you see the oft-used footage of edge? spearing jeff hardy when he was hanging on to the belt in their tlc match, it becomes quite clear who is right, and who is wrong.

adrock2099
09-05-2006, 05:24 PM
Edge
Show and McMahons. I anticipate a ton of ECW interference.
Nitro
Trish
Highlanders
Orton
Umaga, probably because of interference or something gay though.

Dead E. Guerrero
09-05-2006, 07:03 PM
TLC's aren't decided by pinfall.

Oops. Typo.

Legend Killer
09-06-2006, 01:18 AM
In SD!vsRaw games they are. Unfortunately, ill have to be the voice of reason here. TLC matches are decided by the belt retrieval, not pinfall. Actually if you see the oft-used footage of edge? spearing jeff hardy when he was hanging on to the belt in their tlc match, it becomes quite clear who is right, and who is wrong.Oh ok, i can't see WWE on tv becuse here (at home) no one likes wrestling so i must watch the matches on the pc and i never saw a TLC match :S but now that you are saying the jeff hardy/edge thing i remember that match. i thought its was by pinfall because of SDvsRaw game

Quarez
09-06-2006, 03:24 AM
Cena
DX (After either Sabu or RVD interference)
Nitro (Hardy should not be given a title at this stage)
Trish
Highlanders
Orton
Umaga

Seems to be a pretty predictable card. The only match I'm not sure of is the TLC match. As has been said it would be insane to break Cena's "No-clean-loss" streak this close to his movie release. Then again his movie debuts on a Friday as far as I can remember, so they might be moving him. I have no clue what they will do... Only time will tell I guess...

Mr Eighties Wrestling
09-06-2006, 11:40 AM
Nitro (Hardy should not be given a title at this stage)


As has been said it would be insane to break Cena's "No-clean-loss" streak this close to his movie release. Then again his movie debuts on a Friday as far as I can remember, so they might be moving him. I have no clue what they will do... Only time will tell I guess...

Two questions,
1. Nitro or hardy, does it matter which?
2. Does a TLC loss count as clean, you dont get pinned or submit?

adrock2099
09-06-2006, 11:54 AM
They could have the exact same ending as the Hardy/Edge ladder match that had almost the exact same stipulation.

Quarez
09-06-2006, 02:42 PM
Two questions,
1. Nitro or hardy, does it matter which?
2. Does a TLC loss count as clean, you dont get pinned or submit?

1. Nitro at least have a little talent (Not a Hardy fan) and they've done the "the-new-guy-wins-the-intercontinental-title" angle too many times. In my view they need to have the title mean something again.
2. As long as the match is one-on-one it will be a clean loss for Cena is Edge wins.

Mr Eighties Wrestling
09-06-2006, 03:03 PM
1. Nitro at least have a little talent (Not a Hardy fan) and they've done the "the-new-guy-wins-the-intercontinental-title" angle too many times. In my view they need to have the title mean something again.


I agree there. The IC title has been held by many great names in the past, but nowadays its not really a title, its like wearing a sign saying "Im the next one to be pushed, will it get me over, or will we try someone else"

Wrestling psychology of the 80s and 90s: The character gets the title over


Nowadays: Give the guy the title and pray like fuck that he gets over.


They have us hooked though. Monday nights wouldnt be the same without raw, no matter how much we bitch and complain;)

Liverlips McGee
09-06-2006, 08:30 PM
When titles are used correctly, the titles get the character over. Not vice versa.

Nitro is getting pushed way too hard before he's ready. He can't talk, he has no ring psychology, and all he has is an arsenal of wacky looking moves like his handstand legdrop.

CoTT
09-06-2006, 08:42 PM
Worst IC Champ ever? Possibly.

Quarez
09-07-2006, 01:30 AM
Worst IC Champ ever? Possibly.

Golddust? D-Lo Brown? Albert? I think there have been worse dude...

Mr Eighties Wrestling
09-07-2006, 05:17 AM
Nitro is not, and i repeat , not over, and is not likely to get over anytime soon. He is completley undeserving of the IC belt. They should put it on someone like umaga. I know, i hate him, but he seems to be over with the crowds, and is undefeated. Remind u of any TNA character, anyone:confused:

CrazySauce
09-07-2006, 10:36 AM
Cena
DX
Hardy
Trish
Highlanders
Orton
Umaga

Liverlips McGee
09-07-2006, 11:44 AM
Golddust? D-Lo Brown? Albert? I think there have been worse dude...

All three of them are far better workers and were over more than Nitro is now. Albert included.

CoTT
09-07-2006, 07:20 PM
Goldust and D-Lo are both reasonable workers. Albert is actually brilliant from what I've seen of him against Lesnar and Tanahasi.

Liverlips McGee
09-07-2006, 09:25 PM
I liked his match against Kojima.

FreshBase
09-15-2006, 10:27 AM
My Predictions for Unforigven '06

WWE Championship
Tables, Ladders and Chairs Match
WINNER: Cena

Hell in a Cell Match
WINNERS: DX

Intercontinental Champion Johnny Nitro w/Melina vs. Jeff Hardy
WINNER: Jeff Hardy

Women's Champion Lita vs. Trish Stratus
WINNER: Lita


World Tag Team Championships
WINNERS: Highlanders

Carlito vs. Randy Orton
WINNER: Randy Orton

Kane vs. Umaga w/Armando Alejandro Estrada
WINNER: UMAGA

''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard
09-15-2006, 10:44 AM
Dustin Rhodes has had some incredible matches in his career. D-Lo is crizzap for the most part, and Bernard rocks the cock.

Liverlips McGee
09-15-2006, 12:48 PM
I didn't mind D-Lo. He was never anything special, but he was not that terrible.

adrock2099
09-15-2006, 09:10 PM
Didn't he break Droz's back with his gigantic black penis?

APC123
09-15-2006, 09:22 PM
No, I think that was Lexington Steele.