Hey cunts

[Big T]

I recently bought UFC Undisputed 2009 for my newly-acquired PS 3 and it's created an interest for the mixed arts of the martial kind. I'd like to buy a couple of DVDs and i know that there's some of you who enjoy that there UFC.

How about some suggestions you fucking penis touchers.

[adrock2099]

The one where GSP beats the shit out of some faggot who comes to the ring in a slipknot mask while "making it rain". That was the best thing ever, I think GSP kicked him in the face when he tried to do a kip up.

[That Damn Alright]

Christ that's a tricky request.

Off the top of my head I'd recommend:

UFC 92 - The Ultimate: Was the biggest show of 2008 and had three big fights on it including the conclusive fight in the Rampage Vs Wanderlei Silva trilogy

UFC 94: Had Jon 'Bones' Jones breakout fight, Lyoto Machida Vs Thiago Silva and the most hyped fight in history between GSP and BJ Penn

UFC 100: The biggest event in history featuring GSP and Brock Lesnar

UFC 101: Featuring BJ Penn and a fight between Anderson Silva and Forrest Griffin which has gone down in history as the most one sided beating between two top fighters ever

Along with all of these I'd recommend you watch Strikeforce: Fedor Vs Rogers just to familiarise yourself with Fedor Emelianenko and Gegard (pronounced gayhard, lol) Mousasi. you might also wanna watch Pride 33 so you can see the best Japanese MMA ever had to offer.

Apart from all those I'd just stick to youtubing individual fights fights. mmacore is a good source for full fight videos but when I want to see an individual fight I tend to just google, say, 'Fedor Vs Arlovski video'.

Also I dunno how much you know so I'll just give you a list of my favourite/who I think are the better fighters for you to look out for, they all tend to be tough mother fuckers:

Fedor Emelianenko
Antonio RODRIGO Nogueira
Antonio ROGERIO Nogueira
Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua
Lyoto Machida
Wanderlei Silva
BJ Penn
Georges St. Pierre
Diego Sanchez
Anderson Silva
Vitor Belfort
Gegard Mousasi
Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson
Paul Daley
Demian Maia
Shinya Aoki
Jose Aldo (tiny little whirlwind of fists, fights in the UFC's little-men company)

You can't really go wrong searching for any of their recent fights. If you can't be arsed with that then these are the best fighters in each weight class to look out for:

Heavyweight: Fedor Emelianenko (not in the UFC)
Light-Heavyweight: Lyoto Machida/Shogun Rua/Anderson Silva
Middleweight: Anderson Silva
Welterweight: Georges St. Pierre
Lightweight: BJ Penn

Hope this helps mother lover.


That's officially the longest post I've written in about 3-4 years.

[CoTT]

Forget UFC altogether. Get a few PRIDE DVDs instead.

[That Damn Alright]

Forget UFC altogether. Get a few PRIDE DVDs instead.

PRIDE elitism is dumb. Both were brilliant for their own reasons but telling someone to ignore UFC and go watch PRIDE DVDs is like telling someone who wants to learn about wrestling to ignore WWF and go watch old WCW tapes.

[Big T]

I might buy some PRIDE DVDs somewhere down the road but there's no way i'll ignore UFC.

[Big T]

I bought the Best of 2007 and 2008 DVDs as well as The Ultimate 100 Greatest Fights DVD set and UFC 100 on Blu-Ray. More to come eventually but i should be good for a while.

Just like i do with musicians, i start out with "Best of" deals and i eventually go with some specific albums after that. There's a lot of UFC and PRIDE stuff out there and i look forward to know more about this sport.

[CoTT]

PRIDE elitism is dumb. Both were brilliant for their own reasons but telling someone to ignore UFC and go watch PRIDE DVDs is like telling someone who wants to learn about wrestling to ignore WWF and go watch old WCW tapes.

Dunno if that's an accurate comparison. PRIDE was more violent than UFC from what I've seen. It's more HARDCORE if you mark out for that kind of stuff. Depends how you like MMA I suppose. People getting their heads kicked in or as a fully-fledged sport. Personally, I don't find the technical side of it to be especially interesting.

[Big T]

While we're at it, what would you suggest i buy as far as PRIDE DVDs are concerned ? i just might like it.

[CoTT]

Dunno about specific DVDs. I'm not big into MMA or anything. I wouldn't buy DVDs. Downloading individual fights could be the way to go. Try finding the fights mentioned in this (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/best-pride-fights-all-time-349274/) thread on Sherdog. That's the site my MMA fanboy buddies use most. It's the Wrestling Observer of the MMA world.

[Charly]

Recently watched best of 2009 on ESPN. Awesome. GSP has to be pound for pound the best in UFC. I don't watch enough of Pride to comment on fighters not in UFC. I thought BJ Penn was unbeatable. Not so. Also, TDA, in your opinion, whos the best heavyweight in UFC. To me there doesnt seem to be that many candidates. Lesnar is obviously champ but I think his weight, power, strength and ground and pound is what is winning his matches. Gotta be between Big Nog and Mir? Definately not Kimbo Slice. I'd like to see him fight Noguiera, Mir or Lesnar. He'd get his ass handed to him.

[That Damn Alright]

Dunno if that's an accurate comparison. PRIDE was more violent than UFC from what I've seen. It's more HARDCORE if you mark out for that kind of stuff. Depends how you like MMA I suppose. People getting their heads kicked in or as a fully-fledged sport. Personally, I don't find the technical side of it to be especially interesting.

PRIDE was more violent in the sense that they allowed soccer kicks to the head of a grounded opponent, but on the flip side they didn't allow elbows. Alot of people say PRIDE gave strikers the advantage (with the soccer kicks, a ring you could cut off easily and ropes a grounded striker could wriggle through to protect themselves) meaning you got to see a lot of crazy KO's whereas UFC gives the advantage to the wrestler (no soccer kicks means failed takedown attempts are punished less harshly, and the cage is excellent for backing someone up against, taking them down and squashing them into so they can't roll into a better position) which adds up to more technical ground fights and more decisions. I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

You're not alone in being disinterested in the technical side either, most crowds still boo if the fight hits the ground for too long. Pretty much the only fans who don't boo are the Japanese and the Canadians (who are fucking mental). The Dublin crowd was crazy too, I was there and the place was shaking.


While we're at it, what would you suggest i buy as far as PRIDE DVDs are concerned ? i just might like it.

Man I'm so glad I went to all that trouble only for you to not buy my recommendations AND NOT EVEN READ THE FUCKING PART WHERE I RECOMMENDED PRIDE 33.

Fuck you T.



Recently watched best of 2009 on ESPN. Awesome. GSP has to be pound for pound the best in UFC. I don't watch enough of Pride to comment on fighters not in UFC. I thought BJ Penn was unbeatable. Not so. Also, TDA, in your opinion, whos the best heavyweight in UFC. To me there doesnt seem to be that many candidates. Lesnar is obviously champ but I think his weight, power, strength and ground and pound is what is winning his matches. Gotta be between Big Nog and Mir? Definately not Kimbo Slice. I'd like to see him fight Noguiera, Mir or Lesnar. He'd get his ass handed to him.

GSP's good but BJ Penn's better pound 4 pound, which seems ridiculous to say considering GSP has beaten him twice. The fact is GSP beat BJ with his size and strength; in terms of skills BJ Penn is better than GSP in every department except for wrestling. GSP has very good striking, very good jiu jitsu, decent to good defence and the best wrestling in MMA. BJ has the best striking in MMA, second best jiu jitsu in the UFC, the best striking defence and the best takedown defence (joint with GSP). The difference between the two is GSP's size and strength. A lot of people disagree with me but that's how I see it.


For best heavyweight I'm tempted to say Lesnar annoyingly. If not him then I'd say Junior Dos Santos. You're right about his size and strength and that's exactly why I think he'd beat Nog. Nog's a better fighter but Lesnar's a better athlete. The thing is, every time Lesnar gets hit hard he wobbles so there's no way he's going to hold the belt for years and years like people think. If Shane Carwin/Frank Mir don't manage to knock him out in his next fight, someone like Junior Dos Santos will.

And yeah Kimbo is shit, and then you have to factor in that he weighs about 4 stone less than some of the other top heavyweights like Mir, Lesnar and Carwin.

[Big T]

Man I'm so glad I went to all that trouble only for you to not buy my recommendations AND NOT EVEN READ THE FUCKING PART WHERE I RECOMMENDED PRIDE 33.

Fuck you T.

You recommended UFC 100 and i bought it. I also bought a HD TV yesterday so i couldn't buy everything that was recommended to me in one single shot. I'm not fucking Donald Trump here.

As for PRIDE DVDs, i just wanted CoTT's point of view as well since he felt strongly about that company. I found out there wasn't a whole lot of their stuff on the stores we have around here and i'd have to order them.

I watched some fights on mmacore as well and i'll keep going to that site.

I did look into the UFC events you talked about and i just might buy them soon. The cards looked real good. I didn't ignore your post and i'll check it out again before i buy more MMA DVDs brother man. I just wanna love you and i dedicate this song to your sweet ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNY_OfHIhSQ

[CoTT]

As for PRIDE DVDs, i just wanted CoTT's point of view as well since he felt strongly about that company.

Ha! I wouldn't go as far as saying that. I just mark out for the more gory fights s'all. By no stretch of the imagination am I some sort of MMA aficionado. It's one of those "I'll watch it if it's on" kind of deals, like most sports apart from rugby.

(I also hate darts but I refuse to acknowledge that as a sport)

[Big T]

I know you held a knife to a new born Haitian baby's throat while you wrote about PRIDE. You texted me a blog on my fax about that.

[Super Crazy]

i'd like mcsluggs to recommend some good Darts DVD's. been getting into it and want to expand my horizons y'no.

[adrock2099]

i'd like mcsluggs to recommend some good Darts DVD's. been getting into it and want to expand my horizons y'no.

http://watchmojo.com/blogs/images/darts_andy_fordham.jpg

With a little practice, this could be YOU!

[That Damn Alright]

You texted me a blog on my fax about that.

rofl

[MCSLUGGZ]

darts aint about dvds yo its about drinking

[Big T]

I'm going to UFC 113 in Montreal on May 8. I'm gonna witness the power of Paul Daley live and in livin' colah bay-beh !!!!

[That Damn Alright]

Don't forget Kimbo!!!!...........

Fucking Canada man. You moose fuckers get some ridiculously good cards. We've had Joe Stevenson and Thiago Alves main event some of our recent cards, you faggots get Shogun, Machida, Anderson and GSP.

And I predict Koscheck taking Daley down and doing him in, but then I'm a pessimist.

[Big T]

Hopefully, if Anderson Silva returns to Montreal he won't face another Thales Leites kind of guy. Not to put down Leites because that's the only fight i've seen of him and maybe he's real good. That fight wasn't a success so to speak and neither of these guys were happy with it in the end.

[That Damn Alright]

Leites had no business being in the cage with Anderson and he knew it. That's the most mismatched title shot in years and the only reason he didn't smash Leites in the first round is because Anderson was pissed at Dana White for being so critical of his previous fight with Patrick Cote so he chose to put on a terrible fight as punishment.

Machida Vs Shogun II should be absolutely mental though. The only reason I'm not more excited for the fight is because I don't want either guy to lose.

[Big T]

I know Dana can say whatever he wants since he's the president over there but don't make sure to lose some good fighters because they can't stand you anymore.

Sure the UFC is where the money and i don't think they would all go to Strikeforce just yet but still. Then again, who am i to tell White how do to do his job when i've been watching MMA for a little over 2 months ?

Although, it's shit everyone should know. If you want to talk trash about the guys you hire, they may not wanna do business with you for much longer. On a fan's point of view, I spend my money to watch the fighters NOT to hear Dana put on a trash-talking clinic for the media.

[That Damn Alright]

I think it's impossible to be an intelligent MMA fan and not dislike Dana White. Whatever you think of the job he's done, however far he and his team have managed to bring MMA into the mainstream and however much you might like the UFC, the bottom line is as a man he's a stupid asshole with a punchable face and really cuntish mannerisms/behaviour. What's more, he lies continuously to the fans. People with a bit of knowledge about MMA outside of the UFC or the history of the sport can spot his bullshit a mile off but America/the internet is full of idiots who would eat a bucket of his shit happily if he told them he was chocolate ice cream.

A prime example of this is how he talked about Kimbo Slice pre/post signing with the UFC, and in fact someone on youtube put all his comments about Kimbo into a video to show how absolutely absurd his change in attitude was but the UFC lawyers made youtube take it down.

Yeah anyway, my point is fuck Dana White, he's a cunt.

[Big T]

He also talked shit about Fedor right ? After Fedor refused to sign with the UFC. Of course, Dana would negociate with him again once his contract runs out. He reminds me of a spoiled brat who thinks of his fighters as toys and once he's bored with one of them, he leaves the toy behind and moves to the brand new one that came out.

Yeah, i may not have been watching MMA for a long time but i picked up on that.

That being said, i'm curious to see how Kimbo will do and i have no clue who Matt Mitrione is.

[That Damn Alright]

Yeah He's constantly talking shit about Fedor in-between negotiations with him and his people, and then he wonders why he won't sign. He offered him the biggest contract in the history of the UFC and a few other one-time-only clauses but in public he still trashes him all the time, calling him a fat Russian etc.

Mitrione was on the same season of The Ultimate Fighter as Kimbo. He's a tool. He kept saying on the show how he hears angry voices all the time and he has to fight to get some peace and quiet in his mind :rolleyes: but a lot of people off the show said he's got the fastest hand speed of any heavyweight they've ever seen, so he stands a pretty good chance. Having Said that Kimbo's been putting a lot of work in apparently so it's hard to call a winner in this one.

http://i50.tinypic.com/22gxmx.jpg

[Charly]

Dana is indeed a bell-end. Just get Fedor in already! I think only Mir and Lesnar would have a chance against him. Lesnars strength and power could mean he'd be able to man-handle him fairly easyily in the clinch and while in Fedors guard. Ground and Pound probably being the only way he can defeat Fedor. Mir can match Fedor on the floor I reckon. Although Fedors got his Sambo and stupidly fast hands for a heavyweight, Mirs boxing is ever improving and everyone knows about his Jui-Jitsu game. I'm a big fan of Cain Velasquez aswell. Heavyweight fights have a tendacy to get slightly boring and I think what Cain Velasquez does is keep this in his mind as he fights. My only problem is. On UFC Undisputed, do I call him Headhunter or Hands of Stone?. Shitty nicknames.

[That Damn Alright]

Fedor would smash Mir sooooooooooo bad. Mir's not good at getting hit in the face and Fedor hits people in the face better than anyone. I'd have a sweaty arse crack before Fedor Vs Lesnar, no doubt, but that would just make the feeling of elation all the more great when Fedor armbarred Lesnar's gargantuan arm off.

[MCSLUGGZ]

Seems like everybody who likes Frank Mir is dillusional.

[Big T]

I want to fight Fedor. Only in that upcoming MMA game from EA Sports. Not in real fucking life.

[Charly]

Seems like everybody who likes Frank Mir is dillusional.

How do you mean like? As a person I don't know because I haven't seen to many of his interviews or whatever. If you mean in terms of MMA skills and attributes, regardless of what happened with Carwin, I think hes one of the better heavyweights in UFC. Which is kinda like picking out on murderer out of a bunch paedos. Heavyweight division is obviously quite poor at the moment. I have high hopes for Cain Velasquez though.

[That Damn Alright]

I haven't seen to many of his interviews

That explains it. Mir is the most undeservedly arrogant fighter on the planet. Frank Mir is Frank Mir's biggest fan.

My favourite UFC heavyweight is Pat Barry, he's a funny fucker. Something about all the other UFC heavyweights makes me hate them for some reason. I only really like Barry and Cheick Kongo, and I only like Kongo because I think it's hilarious that he knees his opponents in the nuts every fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPx-g5MQh8s&feature=player_embedded

[Big T]

After watching Barry kill Antoni Hardonk, i took a liking to the guy. It was the first fight i saw of him.

[MCSLUGGZ]

Frank Mir is a douche and not that good of a fighter.

Roy Nelson is pretty funny.

Of the heavyweights, I guess my favourite would be Nog. Not really a big fan of anybody.

[Big T]

If Keith Jardine loses against Matt Hamill, do you think he'll end up getting released ? He already lost 3 fights in a row and when that happens that crazy bitch, Dana White strikes.

[That Damn Alright]

Jardine is shit. If he was just any other fighter he'd have been released by now but he was on The Ultimate Fighter, has main evented a PPV and trains with Greg Jackson so he's been given extra time to stop sucking dick so bad. He's gone 5-2 in the last 4 years and both those victories were by split decision. WHEN Matt Hamill beats him down he should definitely be released.

[MCSLUGGZ]

He's there because he's beaten Chuck and Forrest.

[Charly]

Both very big flukes. I'm with TDA. The guy should of stuck to bounty hunting. He got hammered by Houston freaking Alexander. LOLLOLOL!

[That Damn Alright]

Houston Alexander Is- For- Reeeeeal!!

[Charly]

Haha. I remember that. Sorry Rogan. WRONG!!!!

[Big T]

Speaking of Rogan, how do you guys rate him ? As a beginner, he seems alright to me and i noticed that he corrects Mike Goldberg rather often. He comes off as knowledgeable and he doesn't go off on incoherent rants just because he feels he has to say something.

Rogan is a-ok as far as i'm concerned. I don't hate Goldberg but sometimes he comes off as a tool.

"Right partner ?"

[MCSLUGGZ]

Love Rogan.

[Charly]

I admit that I've gotten the majority of my mma knowledge from Joe Rogan. He just gets over excited sometimes. Mike Goldberg is a pretty good commentator and has learned alot from Rogan. It would be really weird to watch UFC without either of their voices.

[That Damn Alright]

Rogan's the fucking man. He was a national Tae Kwon Do champion in his early 20s, then when he watched UFC 1 he fell in love with jiu jitsu and now he's a brown belt under Eddie Bravo so he knows his shit when it comes to grappling. Added to that he's honest in interviews regardless of what the company line is (he's a massive fan of Fedor, for example) and to top it off he's a funny fucker.

Goldberg's alright if you can laugh at him without getting annoyed at how dumb he is. It pisses me off that he finishes literally every fight with 'And it's all over', just in varying degrees of volume, tone and excitedness, plus he's a massive faggot outside of broadcasting. I dunno, I stomach him as much as I can but tend to ignore him and just listen to what Rogan has to say. Having said that, he's the best of a bad bunch of MMA play-by-play commentators. I'd take Goldberg with Rogan next to him over the likes of the Strikeforce or DREAM guys anyday, they're annoying as shit.

Legit quote once:
Goldberg: Travis Lutter is the Michael Jordan of BJJ!
Rogan: errrrr no, no he's not Mike.

[MCSLUGGZ]

Wish it could be Rogan/Ken-Flo or Rogan/Rutten.

[jEHAD]

I wish it was Rogan and Stevie Ray. I feel like MMA lacks the usage of the phrase, "Fruit Booty."

[MCSLUGGZ]

he got dat dere headlock on that fruit booty

"That's a triangle choke, Stevie."

[CoTT]

Rogan is an unfunny Alex Jones-loving conspiracy theorist idiot.

[MCSLUGGZ]

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