ECW's Name is Ruined again by WWE (We Wannabe ECW)

[I Wuv Jessica Biel]

That's right my friends, I am back... Why might you ask? Because I recently heard that the scumbag who ruined the sport of pro wrestling and most importantly ECW, Vince McMoron is back at it again.

At first I heard that there was going to be a One Night Only PPV again and I was thrilled because God Heyman would have been allowed to single handley control it (except for the Stone Cold part which was awful). But then I heard its' RVD vs. Cena and of course there would never be any chance of Vince McMoron putting an ECW wrestler over a Wish We're ECW wrestler. Not only that, but it involved John Wigger who is one of the absolute worst wrestlers in pro wrestling history.

Why does he have to ruin ECW's name again? If he's going ot make it a seperate brand, then just give it to fucking God Heyman to run. He's just going to bury it again. I can see the influence God Heyman is trying to have like reuniting Terry Fucking Funk and his protege Tommy Dreamer, which was fucking beautiful.

My next complaint is Kurt Angle. Why damnited why? Why can't we just have fucking ECW guys. Kurt ripped up his ECW contract back in the day when he pussed out and did not want to fight Taz. Fuck, they should have Taz fight instead of Kurt. Wasn't Kurt the guy who was all against ECW last summer???

I hate WWE so much, it's awful. I honestly think Vince bought ECW so he could bury it underneath the ground. He already stole all of the talent from God Heyman and all of his ideas and angles, now he's trying to destroy its' name. WEll I'll tell you what Vince McMoron, ECW will never die. See ECW is a fucking passion. It's not something that a bunch of Hollywood writers can create. No, it comes from the heart. It's a work of art. You cannot duplicate ART, Vince.

E C FUCKING W.

[Jatycre]

Oh no, oh god fucking no.

[DecoyTantric]

Kurt ripped up his ECW contract back in the day when he pussed out and did not want to fight Taz.

Hey. Mr. Wrestling J. Uninformed: die.

[APC123]

Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back!

[Liverlips McGee]

So THIS is the moron I've heard so much about. I see the stories were not exaggerated.

[I Wuv Jessica Biel]

Thank you APC.

Decoy, you made no sense.

Rip, how am I a moron? I gave you legit reasons that nobody can argue with.

[Jatycre]

Rip, how am I a moron? I gave you legit reasons that nobody can argue with.


Wow, now that gave me a good laugh.

[I Wuv Jessica Alba]

Well I can! Excuse me I am drunk as we speak just like most people round here is/

RVD is going over Cena no doubt but he ain't turning the WWE title into the ECW t9ile title he is gonna trow the WWEE title aside and introduced the ECW title as the "real" worl title. Vine wants to give the new ECW some credibility he dosent wanna bury why would you wanna bury something you investng money on and wanna be suscessfu? and givinbg RVD a win over the WWE champ is the perfect way to do it.

Second thing again who better that Kusrt to give ECW some fucking credibility? ECW has always pride itself with having some real good wrestling matches like Benoit and Jericho so who better than Angle? Besides Angle has done everything in Smackdonwn already do he needs new challenges. Kurt is a prefect fit if you think about it.

Thrid thing dick head this is a NEW ECW period. Heyman knows it, Vince knows it. You can dupliacte the original. What's done it's done. Irts a new chapter a new begining. Whether you like it or not you should be happy Heyman is back booking a promotion and that a new ECW is born. Nigger.

[I Wuv Jessica Biel]

I was actually thinking the same thing; Just as Shane Douglas did with the NWA World Championship by throwing it down and raising the ECW World Title, RVD could do the same with the WWE title and raise the ECW World Title once again. The only thing is Vince is an asshole like you Blades and would never let that happen to his WWE because he has too much of an ego, even though it would help his failing company.

I know you don't know this because you're a newbie fan, you probably started watching when WWF ripped ECW off and called it "attitude," but Kurt Angle was on ECW television and pussied out by not fighting Taz. He backed out and betrayed ECW. That would be the equivlent of God Heyman bringing back Mike Awesome.

Yes, its' a new ECW because Vince McDumbass is in charge of it and not giving God Heyman full authority.

[I Wuv Jessica Alba]

You know what nigger? Vince knows he needs a big fucking shake up something big to happen to revived interest in a once great promotion. and I don't care how big his ego is, money is all that matters.

Whatever Kurt did don't matter. ECW prided itself in great wrestling and Kurt is a great motherfucker and thats all it matters. Storylines change with a great promo and who cares anyways? who the fuck was watching when Kurt was ripping ECW back then? It's all about the casual fans. Vince dosen't care about internet diackwads like you.

I think most control is going to Heyman otherwise it won't work. But we'll see.

and I started watching ECW when Mikey Whipwreck won the world title from the Sandman asshole. 20 minute entrance and all.

[That Damn Alright]

I thought we already established that Jets was Mr WJS?....

[jackofalltrades]

i'll give the new ecw about a year of creative freedom AT THE MOST before uncle vinnie starts sticking his nose in and taking most of the new talent that ecw brings in for wwe. Heyman will quit because of this and the legendary ecw will go down the crapper again.

by the way, can't wait to see the response that cena will get at ONS from the ecw fans, who merit wrestlers on WRESTLING ABILITY, not on image like the majority of fucking clueless wwe "fans".

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

Sad to say, but that wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[That Damn Alright]

i'll give the new ecw about a year of creative freedom AT THE MOST before uncle vinnie starts sticking his nose in and taking most of the new talent that ecw brings in for wwe. Heyman will quit because of this and the legendary ecw will go down the crapper again.



How is that in anyway different to what happened to the original ECW? People still talk about it to this day, so it's hardly going to cripple them if that were to happen

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

It was Something the Bum or something like that.

[Quarez]

by the way, can't wait to see the response that cena will get at ONS from the ecw fans, who merit wrestlers on WRESTLING ABILITY, not on image like the majority of fucking clueless wwe "fans".

So ECW wasn't just about flaming tables, barb wire and all that shit? ECW fans never cared shit about wrestling ability. If they did, their poster boy wouldn't be a pot-smoking spot-fester! I will agree on the fact that the heat Cena will get at ONS II will be immense. It will only be topped by Michaels, when he enters an arena in Montreal...

[I Wuv Jessica Biel]

So ECW wasn't just about flaming tables, barb wire and all that shit? ECW fans never cared shit about wrestling ability. If they did, their poster boy wouldn't be a pot-smoking spot-fester! I will agree on the fact that the heat Cena will get at ONS II will be immense. It will only be topped by Michaels, when he enters an arena in Montreal...

You're a goddamn idiot. You never even got to watch ECW in it's prime because you're from fucking Denmark you jackass. "ECW fans didn't care about wrestling blah blah blah I'm a stupid newbie fan." Watch the Guerreo-Malenko series you ignoramus.

Oh yeah, you also have a John Cena avatar. I'm not even wasting my time on you, you mark.

[DecoyTantric]

The reason, J, that I called you uninformed, was because Kurt was not "afraid of Taz".

He left because he is/was of the Catholic faith and was utterly offended by the Raven/Sandman crucifiction angle.

But I must say, Quarez, that you are uninformed on this one as well--which doesn't happen often. ECW was a pretty wide fuckin' spectrum of what made wrestling entertaining; it appealed to fans of all styles--technical, shoot, suplexfests, spotfests, hardcore spotfests, ground-and-pound, etc.


By the way: the match at ONS is the best opportunity Cena will get at earning the respect of the toughest wrestling fans in the country. If he delivers here, his career changes. It's that simple.

[Quarez]

But I must say, Quarez, that you are uninformed on this one as well--which doesn't happen often. ECW was a pretty wide fuckin' spectrum of what made wrestling entertaining; it appealed to fans of all styles--technical, shoot, suplexfests, spotfests, hardcore spotfests, ground-and-pound, etc.


By the way: the match at ONS is the best opportunity Cena will get at earning the respect of the toughest wrestling fans in the country. If he delivers here, his career changes. It's that simple.

I know about the history of ECW. I have respect for a lot of the people who've come out of the brand, and evolved into great competitors. I just never liked it much, and I have to admit that I hate the hardcore ECW-marks, who constantly sit on their asses and blame everyone else for the misfortunes of ECW. I find it retarded to try and pawn of the blame for Heyman’s financial incompetence on Bischoff, McMahon and anyone else they can think of. So maybe I tend to provoke those marks, by dragging RVD up as "The ECW-poster boy". I’m not saying that he isn’t a talented performer, just that he’s a spot-fester…

[DecoyTantric]

Understood. And yes, a lot of ECW marks tend to not pay attention to important details--details that happen to be covered in all of the freakin' ECW DVDs!

For example, Heyman never once blamed McMahon nor Bischoff for the going-under of his promotion. NOT ONCE. Yes, he refused to put the blame squarely on himself for not being a very good businessman (which he wasn't). But who he did blame deserved every last word of it: the network. TNT, I believe?


And yes, RVD is a spotfester. Nothing wrong with that--in the right circumstances. And the WWE ring is certainly not one of them. So maybe the return to ECW will put him back in the light that made him a big name. We'll soon find out.

[Liverlips McGee]

Network was TNN.

[I Wuv Jessica Biel]

The reason, J, that I called you uninformed, was because Kurt was not "afraid of Taz".

He left because he is/was of the Catholic faith and was utterly offended by the Raven/Sandman crucifiction angle.



Wow, if that is the case, then he is a goddamn hypocrite. I remember Undertaker crucified Stone Cold (rip off of ECW again). Hell, I remember Sex, cursingn, all kinds of "offensive" things from the WWE, including rape, pregnancy outside of marriage, incest, all of the things "Catholics" are against. So why don't you and your hypocrite hero find some new excuses for betraying ECW???

Quarez, you claim you "know" about the history of ECW, which means you never saw it before, except maybe when it was on TNN or the last of their PPVs (but I'm leaning towards never saw it before you newbie). So basically that's like me never seeing a movie, but knowing about it, and saying I hate it, even although I never saw it.

"Oh it's true, it's true." How do you like them apples?

EC F'N Dub.

[Quarez]

Quarez, you claim you "know" about the history of ECW, which means you never saw it before, except maybe when it was on TNN or the last of their PPVs (but I'm leaning towards never saw it before you newbie). So basically that's like me never seeing a movie, but knowing about it, and saying I hate it, even although I never saw it.

"Oh it's true, it's true." How do you like them apples?

EC F'N Dub.

Why does that mean that I never saw it before?

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

I've argued with Mr J too many times to even care about this run.


Mr J has been humbled by me enough, I give the power to Rip, and Quarez now. I'm in a program right now where I no sell COTT's offense and beat him in 8 minute matches. I'm too busy for MR J.

[Quarez]

I've argued with Mr J too many times to even care about this run.


Mr J has been humbled by me enough, I give the power to Rip, and Quarez now. I'm in a program right now where I no sell COTT's offense and beat him in 8 minute matches. I'm too busy for MR J.

I feel the power in me, Master! (It might be the beer though)

I don't think this feud will last long though. The EC F'N W angle is already getting me bored...

But who knows... If Mr. blah blah J. turns out to be more versatile then a one song band (ie. ECW is the only thing that works), then we might be able to pull of a mid card discussions. Otherwise, we'll just take care of it on a house show and dispose of him that way...

[Liverlips McGee]

Yeah, I'm not going to deal with him any differently than I deal with any other stupid new people who I don't like.

[Flamboyant Fozz]

Why would Kurt Angle be afraid of Taz? It's not like they would be having a real fight or anything, by all accounts Kurt is pretty tough guy anyway and he has had a few matches with Taz and survived!

[rolyat89]

ECW were alright at their peak but they didnt know when to stop with their spendings, which questions paul E.'s abilities at running a business and also with out vince and the wwe (much better than ECW) ecw would get buried as no one else would want to invest in a cheap shody idea of a promotion such as ecw where half of the original roster are either dead or deserve to be.

[Selborne Boome]

There is no darm way i would think Kurt Angle being afraid of Tazz, Angle is one of the best mat/technical wrestlers of all-time, and tazz is sad to say a hasbeen, he's fat ass is in bad form and probably would never get into fighting form again.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Angle is not one of the best technical wrestlers of all time. Not even close.

[Selborne Boome]

ah'ok well

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

Angle is not one of the best technical wrestlers of all time. Not even close.


Who betta than Angle?

[Liverlips McGee]

This has gotta be the tenth time we've had this discussion.

Angle gets lost in his matches easily, particularly when they go long, like the iron man matches. He can't figure out how to put matches together on his own and figure out how they are supposed to flow. He also doesn't have a real strong grasp on psychology, or setting up a finish. He uses a series of suplexes, throwing people around the ring, dropping them on their head, back, and ribs, setting them up for his finisher, which is an ankle lock. He's not bad, mind you, and I enjoy watching his stuff, but there are plently of wrestlers who deserve more credit as "greatest technical wrestler."

Did I forget anything, Sluggo?

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

This has gotta be the tenth time we've had this discussion.

Angle gets lost in his matches easily, particularly when they go long, like the iron man matches. He can't figure out how to put matches together on his own and figure out how they are supposed to flow. He also doesn't have a real strong grasp on psychology, or setting up a finish. He uses a series of suplexes, throwing people around the ring, dropping them on their head, back, and ribs, setting them up for his finisher, which is an ankle lock. He's not bad, mind you, and I enjoy watching his stuff, but there are plently of wrestlers who deserve more credit as "greatest technical wrestler."

Did I forget anything, Sluggo?


I don't see how anyone can say anything like what you have described, after his matches with Benoit, The Rock, Stone Cold, Edge, HBK, Mysterio, Eddie & Cena. I'm sorry, but I think you and McBuzzed are totally out to lunch on that. Bret Hart and Flair have gone on record to say that he is among the best ever to step in the ring, so has HBK. It doesn't anymore credible than that.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

His matches with Edge are nothing that warrant a mention. His matches with Cena were average at best, and his matches with HBK are overrated.

As for his matches with the others, these are some of the best storytellers ever, and they've all had matches that are close to on par to the ones they've had with Angle when facing lesser opponents.

All of the guys you mentioned except for Edge and Cena would trump Angle if we were grading in ring aspects. As Austin is one of the best brawlers of all time, Rocky's matches speak for themselves, Benoit and Eddie are just so much better than Angle in every single in ring aspect, and Mysterio is one of the finest one dimensional workers of all time. Angle is good, and I like him, don't get me wrong on that. But he's so badly overrated. When a guy is getting thrown around in best ever talks and is probably not in the top 30 or more, it's a big overrating.

I don't care what other wrestlers say about eachother. Flair says Hart is not a good technical wrestler, and Hart says Flair flat out sucks. HBK says Diesel is one of the nicest and unselfish people in the history of the business, and alot more.

Basically, I think you need to watch old school wrestling, and some older Japanese stuff, so you can get more of a quantity of guys to compare Angle to, because he's not Jumbo Tsuruta.


EDIT: Your post was impeccable, Rip the Juggalo. :D

[Shaggy]

Lol Johnny your a nerd...Stop trying to act cool:D

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

LOL! LOL!
WTF LOL!

You're a waste of pixels.

[Shaggy]

Your a fucking waste of sperm

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

At least I can sperm, you're still shooting blanks at your age. :O

[Shaggy]

Well What Evers Coming Outa My Dick Its Going straight In Your Mothers Mouth.:eek: *

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Somebody's getting mad. Capitalizing every word and such. Your teenie weenie wouldn't please a fucking chicken.

[Shaggy]

ROFL!!! lol im laughing at how much you suck at insults.

Go away you Junky

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

LOL You Are Such A Fool You Don't Know Shit About Anything And You Type Like This When Your Panties Wedge Into Your Vagina And You Become Sad. You Belong In The Rainbow Room And I'm Sure It'll Happen As Soon As The sp3rminator Comes Online.

[Shaggy]

Lol Wtf??

you have the mentality of a 13 year old Junky.

[Shaggy]

Smokin', trippin', drinkin', never thinkin' what's to be
Another day, another war has come to set me free
The cage is broke, the tank is full, it's where the violence rules
Drinkin' booze and raisin' rifles, hell straight through and through

That is just sad..........:D

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

You listen to ICP and you make fun of other band's lyrics? That's pathetic.

[Shaggy]

No im making fun of you because your obviously a stoner Junky. GO watch ACDC dance around in boy shorts faggot.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

I don't smoke weed. What the fuck is a boy shirt?

You're grasping at straws, and it's not even funny. I say again, you should not talk shit about music when you listen to one of the worst bands of all time.

[Liverlips McGee]

Actually, THE worst band of all time according to some magazine. Blender, maybe.

[APC123]

The worst band ever, according to Blender, was Jefferson Starship. And I don't know about any of you guys, but I wholeheartedly agree.

[Quarez]

No im making fun of you because your obviously a stoner Junky. GO watch ACDC dance around in boy shorts faggot.

You know who you remind me of? Of course you don't. You don't know anything. But do the rest of you guys know who he reminds me off?
If I say RVD is nothing but a spotfester, will that piss you off, Pinky?

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

His matches with Edge are nothing that warrant a mention.

I beg to differ, those matches were what was propelling Edge to main event status on SD before his injury, I recall after those matches Trips showed up on SD and he and Edge had that little stare down. Angle is the reason why Edge is in the upper tier/main event status.

His matches with Cena were average at best, and his matches with HBK are overrated.

I'll agree with you about Cena, but his matches with HBK were as good as anything I've ever seen.

All of the guys you mentioned except for Edge and Cena would trump Angle if we were grading in ring aspects. As Austin is one of the best brawlers of all time, Rocky's matches speak for themselves,

Wow, I'd say Angle is their equal in every way, Angle can adapt to whatever style he is in the ring against, I've seen him do it over and over again.

Benoit and Eddie are just so much better than Angle in every single in ring aspect,
We'll agree to disagree here.

But he's so badly overrated. When a guy is getting thrown around in best ever talks and is probably not in the top 30 or more, it's a big overrating.

Wow, I seriously think you aren't giving him enough credit, he carried Cena in their matches and he has been putting over more guys than Austin, HHH and The Rock have/did.

I don't care what other wrestlers say about eachother. Flair says Hart is not a good technical wrestler, and Hart says Flair flat out sucks. HBK says Diesel is one of the nicest and unselfish people in the history of the business, and alot more.

I do, all that shit is just personal bullshit. It doesn't mean anything in their opinions toward Angle.

Basically, I think you need to watch old school wrestling, and some older Japanese stuff, so you can get more of a quantity of guys to compare Angle to, because he's not Jumbo Tsuruta.

Hahahaha! I need to watch more old school wrestling? My man, I seen Flair and Sting's first match and watched the first WAR GAMES match, The Crockett Cup and so on and so forth. I've been watching wrestling since WM 2.
Your points are noted, but i just don't see where you are coming from.

[Selborne Boome]

this is the most quotes i have ever seen in 1 post

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

I've seen every televised Sting vs Flair match. They aren't that good. Flair's had better matches with Race, Steamer, and even Savage.

HBK/Angle the best you've ever seen? Shitty psycology and "Dramatic" near falls that weren't even dramatic because nobody taps to the Ankle Lock, or gets pinned on Angle Slams until the 5th or 21st time in the match anyway. I'm being too hard on the matches, yeah, but there has to be somebody to balance it out.


Benoit is one of the best wrestlers of all time. He's wrestled amazing Junior matches, tag matches, brawls, and technical matches. Kurt Angle can brawl and dish out lamebrain suplexes that don't belong in his moveset in the first place.

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

HBK/Angle the best you've ever seen?

I said as good as anything I've ever seen. But again, we'll just have to agree to disagree about Angle, or we'll be here all night. :cool:

[Selborne Boome]

mmm, i would have thought that some Bret hart match would be the best...

[CoTT]

I've always hated Angle's punches. He stomps the foot and hooks his arm over too high. It looks like a retard punch.

[That Damn Alright]

You look like a retard punch

[Quarez]

You look like a retard punch

ZIIIIIING!!!

[CoTT]

You look like a retard punch

Looks like I stepped on a TDA nerve again. You shouldn't leave those things lying around on the PWF floor...pussy!

[That Damn Alright]

Huh? I'm not even sure what this threads about, I just thought I'd point out the striking resemblence you bear to a retard punch

[CoTT]

Sweep it under the carpet Angle groupie.

[Selborne Boome]

One thing: Angle could be the fittest in the wwe?

[CoTT]

Fittest? His body is in bits. One of his arms is clearly bigger than the other, he has serious neck problems and his head looks way bigger than it did a few years ago which means he's probably on Human Growth Hormone which fucks up the heart.

[jackofalltrades]

how in the FUCK can anyone call RVD a spotfester? over the past 10 years not one wwf/wwe "top guy" has even measured up to the stuff that RVD was doing in ecw. Yeah id really like to have seen the rock or steve austin do a somersault dive from the top rope into the second row of the crowd. theyd piss their pants at the very thought of it!!!

[CoTT]

^^^ Can anyone see the irony in this post?

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

Fittest? His body is in bits. One of his arms is clearly bigger than the other, his head looks way bigger than it did a few years ago which means he's probably on Human Growth Hormone which fucks up the heart.

http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/BullMeter.gif

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

how in the FUCK can anyone call RVD a spotfester? over the past 10 years not one wwf/wwe "top guy" has even measured up to the stuff that RVD was doing in ecw. Yeah id really like to have seen the rock or steve austin do a somersault dive from the top rope into the second row of the crowd. theyd piss their pants at the very thought of it!!!



HAHAHAHAHA!


Anwyay, Kenneth, you're an Angle mark.

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

Uh huh. :rolleyes:

[That Damn Alright]

And you're an Angle anti-mark

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

I like Angle. Somebody has to point out his flaws, though. I don't think my favourite wrestler is the best ever, and you guys shouldn't either.

[Selborne Boome]

So from my point of few i should think bret hart is the best wrestler?

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

It's down to opinion in the end, but opinion shouldn't really dictate the top 20 or so TOO much.

IE, You should have Flair, Misawa, Kawada, Hansen, Race, Kobashi, Funk, Benoit, Hart, and Guerrero in there. Then there's other guys who should also be there, like the Vaders or the Misterio's where their work is hit or miss at some points, but they have some of the largest peaks ever. Same goes for Austin. Then there's guys that are in or out on your opinion. Lawler, Dynamite, etc.

[Selborne Boome]

Another one which i thought about was Andre the giant...was he really that great like everyone said he was < the best ever?

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Andre the Giant, contrary to popular belief, could work in his hey dey. I wouldn't put him in my top 100, but he's not terrible. Andre's match with Giant Baba was pretty damn amazing, considering the guys in the match. 60 minute draw, it was. I think the version I watched was 27 minutes or something, clipped.

[Selborne Boome]

cool, big men always make a nice impact, who's better: Big Show / Andre ?

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

I'd pick Andre, just on amount of decent matches alone.

[Selborne Boome]

Have u /probably have seen Ric Flair vs Andre, i heard that was quite good, who won, and how was the match?

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Have no seen it. Took place in 1977, though. Which can only mean Andre won.

[That Damn Alright]

Andre the giant sucked balls. And Eddie Guerrero was/is overrated. I hate talking about wrestling. What did everyone have for dinner today? I had Chilli con Carne and salad

[Selborne Boome]

Steaks

[That Damn Alright]

Sweet, any condiments or did you have it raw?

[Selborne Boome]

lol, i had it medium grilled with bbq sauce, i would guess 300g size

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

You haven't seen any Andre matches outside of WM 3, and you're against Eddie Guerrero because you don't feel he was big enough to have beaten Lesnar. In short: Fuck you, RVD mark.

[That Damn Alright]

Calling me a mark doesn't really bother me. The whole internet fan lingo reflects worse on the people who use it than the people they label in my book.

I've not seen the WM3 match, and if I have it was so boring I've forgotten. I've seen bits and bobs here and there probably amounting to about 10 minutes of footage (so about 20 of his matches. zzzzzzing) and in all of them he does nothing. He stands there like a fat Romanian, slowly punches them and then lies on them and wins.

I don't know what you mean with your guerrero comment, but whatever. I don't like him because his style is loose and he always seemed to be on the edge of fucking up. He did things too quick and was ropey. I've seen the 2 out of 3 falls between him and Malenko in ECW, and it made me think 'wow, Malenko was the shit in his day'. Guerrero just looked like a fruit.

As for RVD, his matches with Jerry Lynn were quality. You've got it into your head that I love him and like making comments, but I don't talk about him even an eighth as much as you talk about your favourites. You like it when people fake leg injuries and slap each others man tits, I like it when RVD jumps 20 feet out of a ring and clocks a random fan with his trailing foot, or jumps across the ring and kicks someone in the face with a chair. The difference is I'm not a snob. I don't dismiss everyone elses opinions and then proceed to regail them with tales of old tapes from before I was born that prove I'm right, nor do I think there is a right or wrong.

Now, tell me to go watch a video from 1985 that proves conclusively that you are right about everything again. I won't watch it, but it seems to give you peace if mind.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

The difference is, that you constantly wander around the wrestling forums, inserting your opinion, when you barely even watch wrestling. You make comments without having any basis behind them, and you turn 90% of the wrestling threads you post in into meaningless crap.

[Selborne Boome]

I question i have for both of u, or anybody else, not sure if this has been discussed before...Is old wrestling better that modern day, like comparing wrestling in the 70's-90's to 03-06?

[That Damn Alright]

The difference is, that you constantly wander around the wrestling forums, inserting your opinion, when you barely even watch wrestling. You make comments without having any basis behind them, and you turn 90% of the wrestling threads you post in into meaningless crap.

You do realise this is PWF and not The Torch's website, don't you? I couldn't give a shit about wrestling discussion, but seeing as though thats all that seems to get discussed around here nowadays (for better or worse) apart from a few threads from Blades about smoking immigrants, I have to let the people hear my voice somehow.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

There's threads in Other Junk.

Of course it isn't the Torch's website. There's a difference between posting crap in a thread that was crap anyway, but when there's a debate going on, and you post one line of crap every two or three posts, it gets fucking annoying.

[Big T]

Personally i like 80s wrestling better and one of the reasons for that is because i'm a mark for old school wrestling.So as far as wrestling, to each his own and that's ok.

Last year i went to RAW and i didn't care for 95 % of the roster and the matches.I only popped when both Hulk Hogan and Kurt Angle came out for their match and when Shawn Michaels cut an awesome heel promo in preparation for his match vs Hogan at SummerSlam.

[That Damn Alright]

There's threads in Other Junk.

Of course it isn't the Torch's website. There's a difference between posting crap in a thread that was crap anyway, but when there's a debate going on, and you post one line of crap every two or three posts, it gets fucking annoying.

Cry me a fucking river, honestly. I'm not going to lose any sleep or change my ways because you've got sand in your vagina over some flippant, nothing threads having some humour (or at least attempted humour) forcefully injected into it. The intention of this website changed from being a wrestling discussions board to a place for a group of dick heads to post random and racist shit about 3 or 4 years ago. If you don't want threads about Booker T's suitability as champion to be ruined, post somewhere people give a shit.

[Selborne Boome]

I never actually knew, but i have heard that old school wrestling was much more real than modern day, does this mean that in old school days there were real matches and they werent rigged...or were wrestlers more skilled and made moves/punches look more real?

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

They weren't real matches, and just like now some wrestlers sucked and some wrestlers didn't. It's more based on what style you like when you pick an era. My favourite style has been around throughout the 70s-80s-90s-and 00s, but the best time for it was probably 90s AJPW or 80s NWA.

TDA, you can continue to post shitty unfunny one liners, because you think your voice is being heard. I'm sick of arguing with you, personally, so I'll drop it.

[That Damn Alright]

Good stuff, I win by default, yipee for me! You can look forward to plenty more where that came from now I've had this confidence boosting victory!

A word to the wise though: try not to hold grudges, and try taking yourself less seriously. You may have slightly more fun, and who knows, perhaps you'll feel inclined to come down off your high horse and join us mortals.

[Liverlips McGee]

They weren't real matches, and just like now some wrestlers sucked and some wrestlers didn't. It's more based on what style you like when you pick an era. My favourite style has been around throughout the 70s-80s-90s-and 00s, but the best time for it was probably 90s AJPW or 80s NWA.
I also have to give a nod to 70s British wrestling. Some of that stuff is just downright amazing.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Agreed. Also, although he didn't debut until 1983 or '84, Johnny Smith breathed that style.

[Quarez]

I was a sucker for the attitude era, but I actually enjoy most of the matches I watch from any of the former eras. Gotta appreciate everything for what it is, and for what it was considered in the day... What the fuck do I know? I'm drunk!

[CoTT]

I also have to give a nod to 70s British wrestling. Some of that stuff is just downright amazing.

Every mark who sees the old repeats of 70's British wrestling on TWC (UK & Ireland) thinks it's real, testament to how good it was.

Marty Jones was the man!

[That Damn Alright]

I've seen Dynamite Kid and Owen Hart on that stuff by chance. Dynamite was Die-No-myte

[Quarez]

Dynamite was Die-No-myte

So... I mean... Perhaps... WHAT?!

[I'm A Fucking Idiot]

TDA, you can continue to post shitty unfunny one liners, because you think your voice is being heard. I'm sick of arguing with you, personally, so I'll drop it.


And there you have it folks, McSluggs straight up jobbed to TDA. The phrase Government Mulle coms in here

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

That was the kind of jobbing that Jeff Jarrett did to Hulk Hogan.

[-_-]

And there you have it folks, McSluggs straight up jobbed to TDA. The phrase Government Mulle coms in here

Shit you're still here and Mr J wrestling Science is back. Whats next? Chris the cock sucking asian?

[That Damn Alright]

Everyone jobs to TDA eventually.

[Big T]

Shit you're still here and Mr J wrestling Science is back. Whats next? Chris the cock sucking asian?

Who are you ?

[Selborne Boome]

he is chriscocksucker under another "gimmick"

[Dr. Kenneth Noisewater]

That was the kind of jobbing that Jeff Jarrett did to Hulk Hogan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3rV8_D6hNk

[Quarez]

Everyone jobs to TDA eventually.

God I hope not!

[That Damn Alright]

In the words of Led Zeppelin, you're time is gonna come, quarez.

[Quarez]

In the words of Led Zeppelin, you're time is gonna come, quarez.

Hopefully my un-defeated streak will last a few more months...

[Liverlips McGee]

Your undefeated streak is like that of Wrath's back in 1998. Sure, you rack up some quick wins, but it's all ham-and-eggers (Thanks Heenan!). The first time you face one of the big dogs, you'll go down in flames, and the only way people hear about you again is by forming a tag team celebrating marijuana.

[Quarez]

Hey, that's no fair! I did get a win over Jaty in my debut, and even you seem to like my gimmick more and more, tRip old boy :)

[adrock2099]

Jaty's like Scotty 2 Hotty, except no one likes him.

[Quarez]

Jaty's like Scotty 2 Hotty, except no one likes him.

So he's exactly like Scotty 2 Hotty!