Carlito is Cool!

[Real Deal]

I am really liking Carlito, ever since he dropped the IC belt to flair, he has been improving every week,
He has good mic skills, what some would call charisma, and can defiantly get it done in the ring.
His move set is ever expanding, with new high flyer moves being added and a variety of mid match manoeuvres.

Although this new face angle is blatantly obvious I think he can pull it off. The way its looking Carlito is going to be the best of the new superstars, and is the closest thing the WWE is get to another Rock like persona

Thoughts?

[I Wuv Jessica Alba]

I think you are cool as well Real Deal. You and I should hang out really. My fellow Latina friends need green cards. like really soon.

[CoTT]

I'm gone off Carlito. His work, although good in a simple-but-effective kind of way, is ultimately boring and he's been turned face way too soon and has lost his edge for me.

[Cosmic Pope]

Carlito is young and talented in the ring and out. I believe he could be just as great comapred to The Rock. He definitely increased his popularity when he started talking more and turned neutral. I believe that's the best move he can do for his career right now. It will take awhile for him to actually get there, but he will get there none the less. Sooner or later.

[CoTT]

He's nowhere near The Rock's level. Calling Carlito the new Rock is like calling Chris Masters the new Superstar Billy Graham.

[Cosmic Pope]

Uhm.. Not really. You'd be insulting Billy Graham. Why? Chris Masters has no talent and can't wrestle for shit. He's more like the Kevin Nash of wrestling. Pointless.

[APC123]

Uhm.. Not really. You'd be insulting Billy Graham. Why? Chris Masters has no talent and can't wrestle for shit. He's more like the Kevin Nash of wrestling. Pointless.

:eek: 10 characters.

[CoTT]

Uhm.. Not really. You'd be insulting Billy Graham. Why? Chris Masters has no talent and can't wrestle for shit. He's more like the Kevin Nash of wrestling. Pointless.

Calling someone the Kevin Nash of wrestling is praise you idiot.

[Real Deal]

He's nowhere near The Rock's level. Calling Carlito the new Rock is like calling Chris Masters the new Superstar Billy Graham.

Please eloborate- I admit he isn't close to the Rock as far a Mic skills and charisma go, but who is.

Athelitically though, carlito is good, if not better. he can brawl as heel
(as seen v Micheals), he has a good technical moveset, with some very original moves. not to mention the new high flying stuff. One could argue his is one of the most well rounded superstars- ever

[Real Deal]

Uhm.. Not really. You'd be insulting Billy Graham. Why? Chris Masters has no talent and can't wrestle for shit. He's more like the Kevin Nash of wrestling. Pointless.

more like the Lex Luger (all show, no go)

[CoTT]

Please eloborate- I admit he isn't close to the Rock as far a Mic skills and charisma go, but who is.

Athelitically though, carlito is good, if not better. he can brawl as heel
(as seen v Micheals), he has a good technical moveset, with some very original moves. not to mention the new high flying stuff. One could argue his is one of the most well rounded superstars- ever

Are you nuts? Sure Carlito's a decent all-rounder but he doesn't do any of these things particularly better than other superstars and there's no way he can control a crowd like The Rock did.

[Real Deal]

Are you nuts? Sure Carlito's a decent all-rounder but he doesn't do any of these things particularly better than other superstars and there's no way he can control a crowd like The Rock did.

I never said he can control the crowd like the rock can- Yet

and I said he is one of ther best ALL ROUNDER's meaning he is good, not the best at every thing, and he is only going to get better.

who in WWE is a better all rounder- ever?

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

The Rock was a better all arounder.


I like Carlito, COTT knows that from the debate we had wherever. But as usual, now he's an internet love, so he's one of the best at something. Like Christian is one of the best all arounders, right?


Carlito still has alot to learn, but I think some time along the line he'll be a damn good wrestler.

[Real Deal]

The Rock was a better all arounder.


I like Carlito, COTT knows that from the debate we had wherever. But as usual, now he's an internet love, so he's one of the best at something. Like Christian is one of the best all arounders, right?


Carlito still has alot to learn, but I think some time along the line he'll be a damn good wrestler.

The rock would be a better all rounder if he had keep some of high flying movset from the early days, he didn't so as an all rounder I think Carlito is better.


Christian or Edge, are both great all rounders, but I think they both lack a good phsyical beat down style. even now edges striking offence is at times sloppy.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Christian is well rounded when it comes to knowing 8,000 restholds. That's about as round as he gets.

[Real Deal]

Christian is well rounded when it comes to knowing 8,000 restholds. That's about as round as he gets.

Don't know about 8,00 restholds, but he can bring it on the Mic, has good technical ability, can come at you off the tope ropes, and has been invovled in the best ladder matches of all time,

plus his match vs Jericho at WM20, is a good example of the caliber of match he can pull off.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Good technical ability? Hahahahahahahahahaha.

[Real Deal]

Good technical ability? Hahahahahahahahahaha.

please elaborate

I know stonners tend to giggle alot.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

What the fuck do I have to elaborate on? Christian is not a good technical wrestler. He's average at best.

[CoTT]

Christian's selling and offense blow. TNA is where he belongs alright.

[adrock2099]

They should have offered Christian's deal to Hardcore Holly, he needs to have a belt around his waist one time before he goes.

[Real Deal]

What the fuck do I have to elaborate on? Christian is not a good technical wrestler. He's average at best.

Just to get things straight, what makes and who is a good technical wrestler,

[Cosmic Pope]

Christian's selling and offense blow. TNA is where he belongs alright.

You think? I don't know. The World Heavyweight Championship around his waist doesn't effect where his mind belongs. I think he wants to be back in WWE. Hey! He's a European Champion. Oh wait! They retired the belt.

[Liverlips McGee]

Just to get things straight, what makes and who is a good technical wrestler,
Good technique makes a good technical wrestler. One would think that information would be gleaned from the name. Good technical wrestlers incluse, but are not limited to: Bret Hart, Chris Benoit, Owen Hart (whom I think was better than Bret), Dynamite Kid, Bryan Danielson, Lance Storm, Jerry Lynn, and William Regal and Fit Finlay to a point. Regal and Finlay are half-brawler, half-technical.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Jerry Lynn relies on way too many annoying indy spots for me. 10 000 pinning combinations in 75% of his matches.

[Cosmic Pope]

Jerry Lynn relies on way too many annoying indy spots for me. 10 000 pinning combinations in 75% of his matches.

WOW. Very Observant. I'm actually suprised, i thought i was the only one that noticed that. However, Jerry Lynn can be very technical. Lately, he's just been lazy with his matches. Also, William Regal has been rather sluggish lately, i think Regal lost his motivation in wrestling.

[Liverlips McGee]

Oops, that was a typo. I meant Jerry Flynn.

Seriously though, he has some very impressive stuff from the pre-RVD feud days in ECW and elsewhere.I saw a tape a long time ago of a match in Global Wrestling Alliance in Minnesota vs. Sean Waltman in which he was actually excellent. Also, his match with Lance Storm at Anarchy Rulz '99 was very good I thought.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Yeah, Lynn has some good matches, no doubt. But he's not somebody I would mention along with the guys you mentioned with him.

[Real Deal]

Good technique makes a good technical wrestler. One would think that information would be gleaned from the name. Good technical wrestlers incluse, but are not limited to: Bret Hart, Chris Benoit, Owen Hart (whom I think was better than Bret), Dynamite Kid, Bryan Danielson, Lance Storm, Jerry Lynn, and William Regal and Fit Finlay to a point. Regal and Finlay are half-brawler, half-technical.

Good technique at what, does the term reflect on how well they perform wrestling manuvers, a grapple, submission, rest holds or generally how well carry themselves overall,

I would consider benoit more of a brawler than regal, and Owen more of a high flyer. and i wouldn't consider the Current WWE Finlay as a technical wrestler at all.

And if Bret is only a good technical wrestler, who is great?:D

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Benoit is a better technical wrestler than Bret.

Terry and Dory Funk in their primes = Better technical wrestlers than Bret.

I'm tired, and I'm not in the mood to go on.

[Real Deal]

Benoit is a better technical wrestler than Bret.
.


I would have thought Bret was more of a technical wrestler the Benoit, he is known for the exellence of his exucution

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

AC/DC is known as the Thunder from Down Under... Last I checked they are people, not Thunder.

[Real Deal]

AC/DC is known as the Thunder from Down Under... Last I checked they are people, not Thunder.

dude, put down the cereal and go to bed,

[Cosmic Pope]

I'm sorry. Did i miss something? I was finishing up my Frosted Flakes.

..They weren't so grrrr-eat.

[That Damn Alright]

Let me settle this shit right now for you fags. Carlito doesn't compare to The Rock, Christian was alright but needed a gimmick match and needed to talk to get over, no one on the roster is as good as The Rock was apart from Angle, and extended conversations about wrestling make me skip to the end and summarise in a flippant manner. There.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Benoit and Guerrero were both better than the Rock and Angle back then.

[That Damn Alright]

Nope, you are wrong sir.

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

I'm always right about wrestling. Remember when I said Big Show wouldn't fight Kane at Wrestlemania?

[That Damn Alright]

No...........

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Hmm. Mabye it was COTT.

[Cosmic Pope]

I'm always right about wrestling. Remember when I said Big Show wouldn't fight Kane at Wrestlemania?

Big Show vs. Kane at Wrestlemania 22?

Not even WWE would be stupid enough to make that mistake. Who said otherwise?

[That Damn Alright]

CoTT. He's a real dumb arse when it comes to wrestling.

[Quarez]

This thread has gone back and forth so many times, that I don't even know who to bash... I hate it, when I can't remember who said what dumb thing...

[Real Deal]

You want a recap-

Carlito is comparably to the Rock, and I say he will be the next Rock like persona

[Quarez]

You want a recap-

Carlito is comparably to the Rock, and I say he will be the next Rock like persona

Then I ask you to take an IQ test, admit defeat, study and take another one, when your IQ supersedes 20, then we'll talk...

[Real Deal]

IQ- 145 cock breath.

And why isnt carlito comparable to the rock-

The rock is the great one, and I don't think anyone will compare to him in terms of Mic skills and Charisma. However, I think Carlito can come close,I also think that Carlito is an all round better wrestler than the Rock was,

Let me remind you, you like Cena- THATS NOT COOL!, and untill you admit his shit, then I think you need the IQ test.

Know your role.

[CrazySauce]

Here's my take on it, Carlito can and probably will be just as big as the rock was. He has the talent to get where he needs to go, and I think he will beable to use it.

I don't know how TDA can say that Carlito will never be as good as Rock, and then say that Angle was just as good as him. Last time I checked Angle hasn't done anything interesting or worth seeing since his feud with HHH. He's terrible on the mic, sure he had good matches but it's not all about the wrestling ability, you have to keep in mind their all around entertainment qualities which leaves Angle pretty far behind the competition.

[Real Deal]

Here's my take on it, Carlito can and probably will be just as big as the rock was. He has the talent to get where he needs to go, and I think he will beable to use it.

I don't know how TDA can say that Carlito will never be as good as Rock, and then say that Angle was just as good as him. Last time I checked Angle hasn't done anything interesting or worth seeing since his feud with HHH. He's terrible on the mic, sure he had good matches but it's not all about the wrestling ability, you have to keep in mind their all around entertainment qualities which leaves Angle pretty far behind the competition.


Thats Cool!

[CrazySauce]

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/carlito/outsidetheringphotos/052206carlito1.jpg

[Liverlips McGee]

IQ- 145 cock breath.

And why isnt carlito comparable to the rock-

The rock is the great one, and I don't think anyone will compare to him in terms of Mic skills and Charisma. However, I think Carlito can come close,I also think that Carlito is an all round better wrestler than the Rock was,

Let me remind you, you like Cena- THATS NOT COOL!, and untill you admit his shit, then I think you need the IQ test.

Know your role.
You're such an idiot, I don't know where to start. First of all, you don't have an IQ of 145. Just because you did the "Tickle Online IQ Test" until you got a result you were happy with does not constitute a high IQ. I, however, have taken two IQ tests given by my two schools (in two different states) and have gotten two different results: 149 and 156. The first was in tenth grade and the second was in the middle of my senior year. Judging from your complete willingness to conform to public opinion, in this case the public opinion of internet marks, (i.e., Fuck Cena! Carlito is the next Rock! Christian is amazing!), you have nowhere near a 145. I'd guess your true IQ is closer to 125. Also, aren't you the fellow that sat and bitched about me not letting you express your opinions about the wrestlers you like and dislike (because I said exactly the same thing I just did now)? And now you criticize Quarez for enjoying Cena. Oh, the irony!

[CrazySauce]

People like Carlito because he is a very entertaining guy. Just because most people think a certain way doesn't make them a bunch of sheep, it's just a majority, people will make their own opinions on such. To say that people are stupid because they like the same thing as other people is just plain retarded. No matter what someone's opinion is, it is most likely going to be the same as a bunch of other people. If there are the vast majority saying Carlito is the next Rock then I guess they're right because the majority is what makes guys like the Rock popular anyway.

[Real Deal]

You're such an idiot, I don't know where to start. First of all, you don't have an IQ of 145. Just because you did the "Tickle Online IQ Test" until you got a result you were happy with does not constitute a high IQ. I, however, have taken two IQ tests given by my two schools (in two different states) and have gotten two different results: 149 and 156. The first was in tenth grade and the second was in the middle of my senior year. Judging from your complete willingness to conform to public opinion, in this case the public opinion of internet marks, (i.e., Fuck Cena! Carlito is the next Rock! Christian is amazing!), you have nowhere near a 145. I'd guess your true IQ is closer to 125. Also, aren't you the fellow that sat and bitched about me not letting you express your opinions about the wrestlers you like and dislike (because I said exactly the same thing I just did now)? And now you criticize Quarez for enjoying Cena. Oh, the irony!

settle down there big fella, I'm glad you got that off your chest

:first of all. that IQ test was done officailly at High scholl (11th Grade)

: My oppinions are my own, I don't jump on band wagons,

1. I don't like Cena, not as champ at anyway, I've said before I think he would be better back as a heel, and my oppinion of the FU, isn't shared by you "Internet guys"

2. I have liked carlito for ages, ( before WWE pushed him)
when I first saw him i saw somethjing special about him, and espicailly after he dropped the Title to flair, and showed some of his comedic skills back stage. his match micheals only made me like him more.- and as for him being the next rock, thats pretty fucking obvious.

3. I said christian is a good allrounder, there are things I don't like about him but he IS a good all rounder. I never said he was "amazing" but he is a good all rounder(brawling, mat skill, high flying, HArdcore, mic skills)

4. I bagged Quarez for loving Cena, a white guy pretending to be black, and then hating black people.

Giggidy,Giggidy,Giggidy,Giggidy, alllll right---- Jabroni.

sauce- you just keep rocking it.

[That Damn Alright]

All IQ Tests are bullshit, whether it's Tickle or an official one. They are good at measuring who's good at IQ Tests and thats about it. Being able to point out the next number in a sequence or spotting the odd shape out isn't going to be able to tell me whether I'll understand Plato, or write a book or be a nuclear physicist

[Quarez]

Okay, first off dipshit, I don't "Hate" niggers. I "Nothing" Niggers! I live in a predominantly white Arian country, where the only racial gangs we have are
Sand niggers and Somalians. Now, I do hate them for being a bunch of criminal society freeloading excuses for life, but the average American niggah? I don't give a fuck. I believe I did write it earlier when I said that I don't care if you're a nigger, spic... etc. So go shove your head up your own ass where it belongs, you piece of inbred dogshit!

As far as Carlito goes, he's the flavor of the month. Along with hating Cena, this is the new trend that's building among the "lemming-type fans". It'll blow over in a few months, when they realize that he's nothing but a mid-card clown... wait a minute... where have I heard that before? Oh yeah. The TNA champ!

Oh, and IQ: Between 150 and 159 depending whether I've had my 4-6 hours sleep...

[R.I.P]

inbred dogshit hahahahaha

[CoTT]

Here's my take on it, Carlito can and probably will be just as big as the rock was. He has the talent to get where he needs to go, and I think he will beable to use it.


Probably will be just as big as The Rock was? So he's gonna become WWE's third biggest draw of all-time, he's gonna win ten world titles, he's gonna make millions of dollars in a future movie career and he's gonna pin Hulk Hogan clean at WrestleMania? Good luck.

[R.I.P]

carlito has more chance of pinning hulk hogans nephew horace hogan clean at mania remeber horace from wcw ?

[CrazySauce]

You can't really argue whether he will make it big or not yet, but it is very possible.

[Quarez]

You can estimate, and my estimation is: No!

[Selborne Boome]

Carlito is cool, would be fun to see him face instead of his tweener status, and now to Christian: hahahaha, this guy SUX, i really dont like him due to my own personal reasons...he wasnt worth ANY title belt in the WWE, well, not the late time, maybe back in those Egde&Christian times, but Christian being TNA champ makes me think how great TNA wrestlers really are? or has Christian become a better wrestler...what i think: did TNA make Christian champ, to prove something to the WWE...who knows?

[Cosmic Pope]

Carlito is cool, would be fun to see him face instead of his tweener status, and now to Christian: hahahaha, this guy SUX, i really dont like him due to my own personal reasons...he wasnt worth ANY title belt in the WWE, well, not the late time, maybe back in those Egde&Christian times, but Christian being TNA champ makes me think how great TNA wrestlers really are? or has Christian become a better wrestler...what i think: did TNA make Christian champ, to prove something to the WWE...who knows?

..In other words? They pushed Christian Cage too much? I think that sounds about right. I agree.

[Real Deal]

Bottom line:

CARLITO IS COOL:

will he be bigger than the rock?, in my opppinion most probably

Who else in the locker room has a chance to be that kind of star

[I'm A Fucking Idiot]

Paul Burchill. I saw some of his pre wwe work, and he is quite the athlete in the ring, when not restricted, and is currently quite over with the pirate gimmick

[Liverlips McGee]

People like Carlito because he is a very entertaining guy. Just because most people think a certain way doesn't make them a bunch of sheep, it's just a majority, people will make their own opinions on such. To say that people are stupid because they like the same thing as other people is just plain retarded. No matter what someone's opinion is, it is most likely going to be the same as a bunch of other people. If there are the vast majority saying Carlito is the next Rock then I guess they're right because the majority is what makes guys like the Rock popular anyway.
Sauce, you have a good point, but this guy said at some point in the old forum that he heard people booing Cena, so he "started watching the matches more carefully" and started booing him shortly thereafter, and is now attempting to lead a very boring anti-Cena campaign.

And Real Deal, it's very hard for someone to convince someone else that you're intelligent when you misspell so many simple words consistently, in addition to your inability to form your true opinions, devoid of any outside influences.

TDA: IQ is the tool for measuring simple comprehension. It's actually a testament more to "street smarts" than "book smarts," so studying Plato and whatnot doesn't really apply in this situation. Ironically, though, understanding of professional wrestling does.

[Real Deal]

And Real Deal, it's very hard for someone to convince someone else that you're intelligent when you misspell so many simple words consistently, in addition to your inability to form your true opinions, devoid of any outside influences.



True, but I have fat fingers and i'm a touch dyslexic. and my field is more towards engineering and physics so the only time I really type is on this forum.

whats this about my inability to form true opinions?

[Quarez]

Bottom line:

will he be bigger than the rock?, in my opppinion most probably



Are you trying to make yourself look dumber and worse?! Carlito will be bigger then one of the two superstars that helped put WCW outta business? Will he be bigger then Stone Cold as well? How about saying he'll be bigger then Hogan? Or more important to wrestling then Vince? How about saying that he has a higher IQ then Einstein? Or a better technician then Bret Hart? Or that he's a better Football player then Pelé? You really are a lemming, aren't you?

Kill yourself already!

[Cosmic Pope]

Are you trying to make yourself look dumber and worse?! Carlito will be bigger then one of the two superstars that helped put WCW outta business? Will he be bigger then Stone Cold as well? How about saying he'll be bigger then Hogan? Or more important to wrestling then Vince? How about saying that he has a higher IQ then Einstein? Or a better technician then Bret Hart? Or that he's a better Football player then Pelé? You really are a lemming, aren't you?

Kill yourself already!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Lemming.jpg/200px-Lemming.jpg

[Liverlips McGee]

True, but I have fat fingers and i'm a touch dyslexic. and my field is more towards engineering and physics so the only time I really type is on this forum.

whats this about my inability to form true opinions?
Hey genius, read the message I wrote to CrazySauce DIRECTLY ABOVE my message to you, and you'll know what I'm talking about. God, you're an idiot.

[Real Deal]

Hey genius, read the message I wrote to CrazySauce DIRECTLY ABOVE my message to you, and you'll know what I'm talking about. God, you're an idiot.

sorry you gonna have to go into more detail , I still don't get it

is, "this guy" refering to me.

[Liverlips McGee]

...Simply amazing.

[Real Deal]

Are you trying to make yourself look dumber and worse?! Carlito will be bigger then one of the two superstars that helped put WCW outta business? Will he be bigger then Stone Cold as well? How about saying he'll be bigger then Hogan? Or more important to wrestling then Vince? How about saying that he has a higher IQ then Einstein? Or a better technician then Bret Hart? Or that he's a better Football player then Pelé? You really are a lemming, aren't you?

Kill yourself already!

If I had said to you in 1996 that the Rock would be as big of star as Hogan would youve had said the same shit.

And just because there trying to turn Cena in to the next wwe Mega star and it isn't woking doesn't mean that there will never be another star the same calibre as Rock\Austin\Hogan

there is a very simple answer. if Carlito becomes what I think he will then I'm correct, if he doesn't I'm wrong, Very simple,

[Real Deal]

...Simply amazing.

I know, I try

[''Powdernose'' Tully Blanchard]

Totally different. The Rock Debuted in 1996. Carlito debuted in 2004, two years ago. Two years into Rocky's career he was looking like the next big star.

[Quarez]

Totally different. The Rock Debuted in 1996. Carlito debuted in 2004, two years ago. Two years into Rocky's career he was looking like the next big star.

I know it doesn't work at this forum, but here it is: :wub:

[raul]

OMFG you guys are really debating this shit. I heard from some others that this goes on deep in cyberspace but I never believed it. DO you guys troll chat rooms in your spare time looking for dragon masters and young boys to cyber with?

[Quarez]

Yes (Again with the 10)

[CoTT]

If I had said to you in 1996 that the Rock would be as big of star as Hogan would youve had said the same shit.


The Rock hasn't yet become as big a star as Hogan, not in wrestling terms anyway.

[Selborne Boome]

Yeah, he probably would never aswell, unless he one day decides to come back...

[That Damn Alright]

OMFG you guys are really debating this shit. I heard from some others that this goes on deep in cyberspace but I never believed it. DO you guys troll chat rooms in your spare time looking for dragon masters and young boys to cyber with?

No, I troll forums looking for holier-than-thou, tough guy wannabes like you to fuck and watch me jack off on webcam. a/s/l???

[CoTT]

This guy's tough? You do know his name is Raul right?

[Selborne Boome]

i think this Raul guy is Chrisazan, unless Chris already joined with another different name...

[CrazySauce]

I think he is the Former Member.

[Quarez]

I think he's George Bush scamming the internet forums for young boys to sodomize...